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Andrew Eccles has been a freelance photographer based out of New York
City since 1987. Prior to becoming an independent photographer, Andrew
assisted a number of outstanding photographers including Robert
Mapplethorpe, Steven Meisel and Annie Leibovitz.
Eccles’s photography delivers a classically composed, technically flawless
image; One that is infused with humanity and respect. Mira Sorvino, Demi
Moore, Steve Martin and Michelle Pfeiffer are among the most recent
celebrities he has photographed.
Corporate clients including Turner Broadcasting System, Inc., ABC, NBC,
FOX, Miramax, Sony, Warner Bothers and Atlantic Records incorporate
Eccles’s photographs in such media as CD covers, movie posters, billboards
and press kits.
Eccles’s photography also appears regularly in dozens of magazines
world-wide. Esquire, Rolling Stone, Playboy, Time, LIFE and GQ are a
sampling of past and current magazine clientele. The New York Times
Magazine recently honored Andrew by using one of his award winning photos
of Steve Martin on the cover of their 100 Years Of Photography issue.
His continuing interest in dance and personal projects resonates in much
of Eccles’s work. He has collaborated on promotional projects with dancers
and dance groups, including Alvin Alley, Martha Graham and Ralph Lemon.
Eccles has also teamed up with designer Geoffrey Beene, photographing New
York City Ballet dancers wearing Geoffrey Beene fashions. His photographs
have been the focus of Beene’s advertising since 1992, and are prominently
included in Beene’s recently published Anthology.
As personal projects, Eccles has documented the Exxon oil spill in Valdez,
Alaska, a Southern Baptist community and Outsider Artists in the deep-south
and New York.
Represented by Amy Shebes. Telephone 212-260-4777, Fax
212-620-4888

How did you become interested in photography? My
background in photography really goes back to when my father gave me his
camera when I was about 12 years old. I knew that it was more than a tool I
was going to use to record vacations and family members with. I
started seeing through the camera in a creative way at a pretty young age;
at about 15 or so, I knew this was something I might want to pursue for the
rest of my life.
I used to hang out with my high school friends and we would all talk about
what we were going to end up doing with our lives and I remember jokingly
saying I was going to be one of the greatest freelance photographers in the
world. They would all laugh hysterically. I have hardly achieved that, but
I have managed to make a living at it, which is pretty remarkable in my
eyes.
I went to art college in Toronto, Canada and pursued other mediums. I
tried drawing and painting, always trying to achieve photo-realism, and
finally realized in my last year that my photography classes where my most
successful classes and the ones that I enjoyed the most, and that this was
the thing that I was best at doing.
I had always wanted to pursue photography as a fine art medium versus a
commercial life style. But, I figured if I am going to be able to support
myself, maybe I could take pictures and make a little money, then spend the
rest of my time pursuing my fine art photography.
I came to New York and assisted various photographers; Annie Leibovitz
the longest, about 3 years, and brief freelance stints with Robert
Maplethorpe, Steve Meisel, and a couple of other top photographers. I had a
really wonderful, well rounded education when I came here and that’s when I
really saw the way commercial portrait photography was done and applied in
the market and thought that was what I wanted to do.

How did you get your first job? Actually, I snuck into
the Parsons School of Design and somehow got to their job placement board. There
were some photographers there looking for interns and assistants. I got their
names, made some calls and ended up getting a position at a still-life
photographer’s studio.
In those days there were photographers that were
not making a lot of money, weren’t terribly successful; they were looking for
cheap help and I was willing to work really cheap. Long hours for nothing, I
mean we are talking 18 hour days for $30. That is essentially the way it was
then, around 1982 or ’83.
I put in a lot of hours and time at this still-life studio and really felt
that I wasn’t learning about the kind of photography that I was interested in -
which was people photography. A friend of mine from college who had also come to
New York, had somehow worked his way up to the Annie Liebovitz studio assisting
there. He had a little lead time on me, he had been here a year longer than I
had and when I got in touch with him he said he was working over there at her
studio why don’t I come in tomorrow and interview as a second assistant.
I came in, yes I was nervous, but I got the chance. Still didn’t know how to
load a film back, but I just tried really hard and observed, watched, listened.
After a few weeks, he was let go and I was offered the job; still wasn’t sure of
what I was doing but I knew I had to take it, I knew it was important that I
tried. That was it. The die was cast for the next three years.
There is a certain amount of fate and luck to the way things have gone for
me. I think if you are fortunate enough to have that set of circumstances occur
then it is how you pursue it, how hard you try once handed an opportunity. So I
tried really hard and worked like a dog to figure out what I didn’t know.

If somebody came to you today with the same credentials you had back
then, would you hire them? I already have. I have had people come in
here with very little experience but you can tell that they really want to be
immersed in the experience, and that they like your work.
We had a young woman come to us about a year ago. She was from Israel, her
English skills were poor, but she told me she had been in the Israeli Army for
two years and she could fix an air conditioner. That was one thing that was
definitely a plus. I liked her chutzpah but she was so nervous in the interview
that I saw her hand shaking. This is somebody that really, really, wants this. I
could just tell. It really didn’t matter that she had no experience, there was
no harm in trying her out, and within a few days you could tell how eager she
was to learn.
She started picking up thing after thing. Now she has been
working with us regularly for a year. Her English is great, she has become a
terrific photo assistant and it is nice to know my instincts were right. I am
totally open to having people with no experience. It is more important to me
that somebody really wants to be there. You can learn the technical stuff within
weeks to months; how to load film, how to take light readings, how to set up
equipment. What you’re really looking for is the desire and drive when somebody
is around you.

Were your parents supportive when you started - when you thought
about where you were going? I think they were always supportive, but
there were times when I had my doubts. Like when I got the job assisting Annie
Leibovitz. That, to them, was as high as I could possibly get in photography.
They couldn’t imagine me actually taking the photo. They could only imagine me
helping her take it. They would see her photographs in Vanity Fair Magazine and
they would be so proud because they thought that I was contributing.
When I told them I was leaving Annie to do this on my own they were, "oh, oh,
please, oh well, are you sure this is a good idea". It was like they did not
understand the whole point was I that was supposed to do this thing on my own
some day.
The first couple of years was tough because instead of telling them I was
going to a famous place, with a famous photographer, to photograph a famous
person, I was telling them I am doing a fitness story for Time Life Books
tomorrow. Nothing sounded as impressive or glamorous; to them my life seemed as
though it had taken ten steps backwards.
What they did not realize it that I was actually starting to make money and
that I was working towards the higher goals and levels of photography and
finally after about four years they started to see my pictures of celebrities on
magazine covers and they could proudly go into the super market and, in any
given month, pick up two or three magazines that would either have my
pictures in them or on the cover. Then they became extremely proud, I’m sure,
and they understood the whole thing.

Is there one point in time when you said to yourself: "Hey, something
really, really important happened to me, something that changed my life
photographically, now I am ready to take the next step, now I am going to move
ahead"? There was a trigger and it was perhaps in many ways a sad
one. I think it was fundamental in changing the direction of my career. It was
when my father passed away in 1989. I was very sad, very confused, and did
not know exactly how to handle it.
There had just been an oil spill in Valdez, Alaska, and for various reasons I
found some parallels in my father’s life and in the situation in Valdez. There
were common things about the two experiences for me.
One of the things that struck me about Valdez was watching on the news, these
clean up crews literally sitting on beaches wiping rocks off with these clean
cloths and putting rocks, one-by-one in into clean piles. It just seemed like
such an insurmountable amount of work. So much of the coast line had been
spoiled, and I thought: How do they begin to put this back together?
There was something that I experienced when my father died which had been so
painful, and so difficult, that I did not know how I was going to put the pieces
of my life back together and go on with things, and I somehow found a parallel
experience between these two different events.
I was completely compelled to go to Alaska. It literally just came to me
while I was lining up for a movie in New York. I just looked at the person I was
with and said I have to go. They asked where I was going and I said Alaska.
The next day I was looking through Atlas’ and reserving plane tickets. And I
went. I went by myself, and I took my camera and worked very hard at getting
access to the parts of coast line that were spoiled. I felt that I had to
photograph these people that were putting this situation back together, and that
somehow by seeing them do this it would help. It would be therapeutic.
And it was. Psychologically it gave me a lot of strength. And
photographically, it was the first subject I had taken on for a reason, other
than having been assigned to take a picture. It was something that I choose to
do, something close to my heart, something that meant a lot to me, and also
something where my photographs might help or make a difference to other
people as well.
For me this was definitely a turning point in the way I thought about taking
photographs. Even in my college days, I always knew that I wanted to take
pictures that would somehow have an impact on people, somehow influence them,
somehow make them feel something, and this was the first time I had actually
been able to do that.
Once they were published I began to get offers to do similar types of stories
in other parts of the country. That is the work that I am proudest of and that
is the kind of work I aspire to do down the road when I feel that I have gained
enough financial security and am able to pull away from my commercial work
schedule.

What is the most interesting or stimulating project you’ve
undertaken? The one that turned me on the most was when Art and
Antiques Magazine asked me to go into the deep south to photograph what
they call Outsider Artists, which we also call Folk Artists.
Outsider Artists are essentially creative people who are self-taught. The
project was to send me throughout the deep south to photograph 12 or 13 of
these artists who were being exploited by certain galleries and gallery
owners mainly in the Northeast, New York and Boston.
The process that was happening at the time, and we are talking about ’92,
is the gallery owners were getting hip to the fact that the work of some of
these Outsider Artists was really catching on, so they were going down to
where these people lived to buy their work directly.
Now, I have to explain, we are talking about incredibly prolific, very
arty people. These are people that weren’t creating for any other reason
but to create, they could not help themselves. They would get up in the
morning and paint, or they would sculpt. So a lot of them had houses filled
with work; stacked up against the walls. One of the artists had about two
acres of property where every tree on the property had sculpture hanging
from it. It was all over his fences, everywhere.
Some gallery owners would go down and offer these artists virtually
nothing. Like: I’ll give you $350 to take everything you have in your
house; essentially raping the artistic environment; filling up trucks and
bringing it up here and then marking it up by two to three zeros; certain
pieces going for as much as $25,000, and the artists only receiving a
miniscule part of the sale.
Our story was to go down and identify these artists, celebrate them and
their work, show our collectors and people who would read a magazine like
Art and Antiques: These are the real people, the real artists, look at
their faces, look at their hands, look at what they are doing. And, now,
look at the way they live.
None of us could imagine living the way some of these people live. Tiny
houses, maybe 200 or 300 square feet, with a bed and nothing else. No heat.
No running water. These are people whose paintings were sometimes selling
at galleries for thousands and thousands of dollars.
It was a fascinating story for me because I adored these people. To see
the creative process in its purest form. These people do not care about
being famous, they didn’t care about galleries, they just wanted to be paid
fairly. But they needed to be educated about the whole economic process, so
that’s what we were there doing.
It was also an incredibly rewarding project because it did lead to a
certain amount of change. The galleries could not get away with it anymore,
the public became hip to the fact that they were paying a lot of money for
art where the artists were hardly being compensated at all.

Have you ever taken a picture or worked on an assignment that made
you cry? Another story that came some time after the
Outsiders was a story on the lack of federal funding for healthcare and
also in the deep south. Essentially, Afro-American communities.
I was a little naive going in and I got hauled into some pretty tough
spots. My job was pretty much to record the life-style of the people in
these communities, and to also cover whatever health clinics and doctors
were there, and see how frustrating it was for them because they did not
have enough money to treat the townspeople.
That one was really tough. I went into some homes with conditions that I
couldn’t believe. Met some people who were really sick that could not
afford to go to the doctor because either they were not educated enough to
know that they should, or there was absolutely no way that they could do it
financially - no matter what was wrong.
There was an irrigation ditch in Mississippi that people had built shacks
in. In one of the poorest rural ghetto regions in the country, there was
this man who was probably in his 70’s or 80’s and he could only see out of
one eye, he was as thin as a rail and he was coughing, and he lived in
conditions that we could never imagine, a tiny cinder block shack with no
windows, total darkness. If he spent the day inside he would not know if it
was night or day. He was dying in there.
He had a tiny gas element that he cooked on. I had no idea what he was
eating, and he was sitting on his bed and I was photographing him, and I
just started to cry. I tried not to show him that I was crying, but it was
impossible not to feel the intense amount of pain looking at this man and
his situation. I could get on an airplane and go to New York City but he
was there and he was going to be living like that for the rest of his
life.

What was the result of the photographs? That story has a
somewhat positive ending because after the pictures were run in American
Health Magazine the story got a certain amount of attention and News 4 New
York talked about it and showed some of the pictures.
Through a different series of events, one thing led to another and the
story did end up contributing to Clinton’s campaign platform to change the
healthcare system.
I had an opportunity to photograph President Clinton. I gave him as a
gift, when I was in the Oval Office, a black and white print of the cover
of the magazine for that story on healthcare, telling him I had done the
story and had seen first hand what he was trying to do to the healthcare
system.
That story may have opened some eyes, it definitely raised some dollars
for some of the health clinics that I photographed, and hopefully it
changed a vote or two.
If you can take a picture that makes people think, you have done something
very successful not to mention some of those letters-to-the-editor in the
following issue.
One person said that they had cried when they looked at the pictures and
that to me was one of my greater achievements in life.
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